1080p 60fps stream is blurry with any bitrate?

zaxto

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so i get very blurry/pixelated stream when moving in the game and when i stand still it goes crisp, i was streaming to youtube.
Any way to fix this, i have tried to lower my resolution and higher my bitrate but it still looks like poop.

when i was looking at stats they looked good, no missed, skipped or dropped frames.

thank you if u can help me

-zaxto
 

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AaronD

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...i was streaming to youtube.
YouTube tests the viewer's connection, and automatically picks a level of degrading to give to that viewer, so that it stays smooth. Slower connections (as YT determines) get worse quality.

Change the quality setting in YT's player from Auto to what you gave it (force that quality for yourself), and see if it looks better. If it does, then there's nothing more to do. You can't force others' quality.
 

zaxto

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YouTube tests the viewer's connection, and automatically picks a level of degrading to give to that viewer, so that it stays smooth. Slower connections (as YT determines) get worse quality.

Change the quality setting in YT's player from Auto to what you gave it (force that quality for yourself), and see if it looks better. If it does, then there's nothing more to do. You can't force others' quality.
I had the stream forced to max quality.
 

AaronD

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Its Look crisp to me on Phone
On phone it looks good but when watching on pc it gets blurry.
If it's good on *any* receiving device, then everything on the sending end is good.

That said though, a phone isn't necessarily a good test. A small screen doesn't show much.

Looks okay to me anyway, on my 17" 1920x1080 screen, forced to 1080p60 fullscreen.

...blurry/pixelated stream when moving in the game and when i stand still it goes crisp
That's just the nature of lossy video compression. You need an insane bitrate to not do that. Look at the file size from a Lossless recording and divide by the runtime...
 

zaxto

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If it's good on *any* receiving device, then everything on the sending end is good.

That said though, a phone isn't necessarily a good test. A small screen doesn't show much.


Looks okay to me anyway, on my 17" 1920x1080 screen, forced to 1080p60 fullscreen.


That's just the nature of lossy video compression. You need an insane bitrate to not do that. Look at the file size from a Lossless recording and divide by the runtime...
What u mean by ”insane” bitrate, highest i tried was 25k, highest i could try is about 50k but that eats all my upload speed then, how are so many streamers on twitch at 8k but still looking better than my streams?
 

AaronD

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What u mean by ”insane” bitrate, highest i tried was 25k, highest i could try is about 50k but that eats all my upload speed then
I just recorded a 20-second Lossless test video at 1920x1080p60. For just those 20 seconds, I got a 1.2 GiB file. (1,305,005,106 bytes) Dividing that out, with 8 bits per byte, gives 522,002,042.4 bits per second, or 522M. (522,002k)

So you have to compress it. And that compression must throw away detail. For comparison, I recorded another 20-second test with the Indistinguishable setting. That gave me 39.9 MiB. (41,862,221 bytes) Dividing that out, with 8 bits per byte, gives 16,744,888.4 bits per second, or 17M. (16,745k)

Of course, both of those are far higher than your connection can support, so you have to use far fewer bits, which means that not everything that you can see can be described accurately. In other words, *something* WILL be blurry. It's only a question of "What?" and "Will you notice?"

how are so many streamers on twitch at 8k but still looking better than my streams?
Are you criticizing yourself more than you criticize them? That's easy to do. I think you look okay.

There are tricks and command-line options that get into the highly technical weeds in a really big hurry, to tell the encoder just what to preserve and what to throw away, but very few people actually get into that. Maybe your favorites do?

And I believe that Twitch also has an affiliate program, that effectively amounts to "paying Twitch to make you better" or something like that. Don't know the details, as I'm not on Twitch at all, but that *is* the impression that I get from the outside. So if you're not an affiliate, it could be that you actually *are* sending them something good and they kill it.

But again, the link that you gave here, looks just fine to me. Nothing unexpected, anyway.
 
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